Already in use

[Robert Davidson]

Hey,

It is great that he's made freeside, but as i pointed out, a little more help
would have been nice. 

As for flaming him.. I could have done it alot worse, I was being as nice as I
could about it.

Regards,
Robert Davidson.
roblo at ebbs.com.au



On Sun, 20 Dec 1998, Jeff Lynch wrote:
>I think it's great that Ivan has made Freeside available to everyone.
>Eventhough we had to go with a commercial solution before freeside was
>ready for us to put into production, we're still watching closely as
>as the product matures. 
>
>I also think it absolutely disgraceful for anyone to flame a guy like Ivan
>who has done so much work and chosen to give it away. Do you want
>him to fly out on his own ticket and install your servers too? Geeze.
>
>Ivan, just ignore this guy, he's not worth it.
>
>--jeff
>
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>On Sun, 20 Dec 1998, Robert Davidson wrote:
>
>> 
>> Your solutions are all simple.
>> 
>> GIVE UP!!!
>> 
>> While FreeSide looks like it could be a potentially great package, Ivan never
>> seems to help anyone very well. Not enough time hey Ivan? Or do you simply 
>> make it so it's that hard for people who dont know perl inside out to use
>> FreeSide so that you can make some $$$$ installing it for idiots?
>> 
>> The instructions for FreeSide are very uncomplete. I for one have had many
>> trys at FreeSide, never getting the damn thing to work properley. It's been a
>> great challenge, never the less.
>> 
>> I gave up on freeside long ago, and I've been laughing at you lot trying to get
>> it going, hoping you will, but knowing you dont stand much of a chance.
>> 
>> I know that there are alot of people on this list with probs with freeside..
>> Freeside would probably be good if the documentation was more extensive, if you
>> included the shortcuts (like instead of going to that place to get those perl
>> modules, just getting the deb's for it from www.somesite.org), those kinds of
>> hints would be good. It would be good if you (ivan) would give more informative
>> answers when you reply to some people on this list, sometimes a "yes" or a "no"
>> isn't enough.. Sometimes an explantion is a great help.
>> 
>> Ivan.. I dont like you very much. It's good that you are making a product lke
>> freeside, and the only reason I'm not abusing you is because you dont deserve
>> to be abused in my books, as you wrote Freeside, which I'm sure someone has
>> gotten some use out of.. From what I can tell, the majority of us havn't..
>> 
>> Ivan.. the reason I dont like you is because you dont seem to help people on
>> this list as much as you could (and should as far as I believe).. If your
>> emails back to these people with problems were just a little more informative
>> you may save some people alot of time instead of rooting them around.
>> 
>> Please un-subscribe me from your list. I no longer have any intrest in Freeside.
>> 
>> Thankyou for your time when trying to help me. It was very much appriciated.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Robert Davidson.
>> roblo at ebbs.com.au
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, 19 Dec 1998, Jay wrote:
>> >Here's a new one. When I go to add a user account via the FreeSide system,
>> >it is added to the PostgreSQL database, but never added to the system. The
>> >web browser just hangs for about 5 minutes, then times out with a no data
>> >error. During that 'time out', if I do a 'ps auxwww' I see the ssh useradd
>> >command hanging; it looks like ssh is never able to connect to
>> >root at localhost to add the user. After it times out, if I sumbit the same
>> >data again, it tells me that the username is already in use. Then, if I
>> >got back to the main menu and browse the database, it shows all of the
>> >users there, but still they were never entered into the password file. 
>> >
>> >Any sugguestions about how to get ssh to complete the process? Thanks. :)
>> >
>> >~Jay
>> >
>> >- J a y   J a c o b s o n
>> >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> >- jay at kinetic.org   www.kinetic.org
>> >
>> >Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of.
>>