[freeside] MySql Help - a *VERY* negative opinion is rendered

Kristian Hoffmann khoff at pc-intouch.com
Sat Aug 4 00:24:45 PDT 2001


Cretin.  Do not taunt happy fun ball.

-Kristian

On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Kenneth R. Lewis wrote:

> Gary,
> 
> I too had this problem, and got the same 'pat' answer from Ivan,
> while others who have inquired get somewhat reasonable responses.
> Could it be cyclical? Even periodic?
> 
> It is a shame that Freeside has these dependencies, and at the
> same time, a prohibition ( read "lack of tutorial or documentation")
> on help for anything deemed "out of scope"..yet required.
> 
> I was able to get around the Perl DBD:mysql issues by removing, then
> reinstalling the entire perl distribution----then going through
> the step-by-step process of installing (via CPAN interactive shell)
> the list of dependencies. Only after that arduous effort, and much
> wasted time was I able to get Freeside running.  Oh, and by the way,
> divining the obscure notation methods, file/directory naming convention
> and other obfuscation's consumed even more precious time. Eventually
> I was able to get to a point where I could discover the severe
> limitations,
> dead ends and oversights that make up Freeside.
> 
> Essentially, Freeside has one useful module and that has to do with
> customer database entry. The rest is an awkward attempt at interfacing
> to RADIUS (albeit not too smoothly) and a severly limited accounting
> paradigm that has little to do with real accounting needs or practices.
> 
> Things like: recurring billing of Credit Card customers - duh, this is
> probably the MOST important thing to get right - requires more steps
> and effort than dealing with the local DMV employee... C'mon!
> For me, it is the clearest of indications that this effort (although
> noble) is not ready for prime time. You truly do get what you pay for.
> 
> On that note, the 'offer' [sic] to consult/per hour by the author,
> coupled
> with the ego-centric put-downs for newcomers to Freeside should be
> warning
> enough..... This is my honest, and battle earned opinion. 
> 
> So - I tried, I learned, I abandoned quickly.
> 
> K.R. Lewis  (Responses will be summarily ignored.)
> 
> ivan wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 04:02:48AM -0500, Gary Dewrell wrote:
> > > Any ideas on how to fix this problem?
> > 
> > Install a working MySQL client library.
> > 
> > Problems getting things like your database and Apache installed and
> > working correctly are outside the scope of the Freeside mailing list.
> > There are mailing lists for MySQL and DBD::mysql, please ask there for
> > assistance.  Once you get MySQL and DBD::mysql working, give Freeside a
> > try again.  Good luck.
> > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "ivan" <ivan at 420.am>
> > > To: <ivan-freeside at sisd.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 2:05 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [freeside] MySql Help
> > >
> > >
> > > > Interesting.  If that's actually something people need to do Freeside's
> > > > configuration stuff will have to be renamed.  I don't think so, though.
> > > > Note the following paragraph in the documentation:
> > > >
> > > >                 Usually there's no need for this option, unless you are
> > > >                 using another location for the socket than that built into
> > > >                 the client.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your problem is because you're using a MySQL client library
> > > > (libmysqlclient.so) that doesn't match up with your MySQL server, for
> > > > example if you installed one from RPM and the other from source, or
> > > > vice-versa.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 01:50:31AM -0500, Gary Dewrell wrote:
> > > > > OK Next Update.  I found that you can specify the socket location on the
> > > DBI line such as:
> > > > >
> > > > >  DBI:mysql:fredcat_db:mysql_socket=/tmp/mysql.sock
> > > > >
> > > > > but since freeside requires a directory to be created using that name I
> > > cant do it because I cant create a directory with a / in it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Im no programer so Im hoping someone has already figured a work around
> > > for this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > meow
> > > > _ivan
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> > --
> > meow
> > _ivan
> 




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