[freeside] 1.2.3 released

Kirk Moore kmoore at aa.net
Sat Mar 4 11:06:32 PST 2000


I have been posting questions.... but I think I might have figured this
out.... Maybe...

--
Kirk Moore
Renton, Wa


Black Holes are created when God divides by zero

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Walters [mailto:Brian at mylinuxisp.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 11:12 AM
To: ivan-freeside at sisd.com
Subject: RE: [freeside] 1.2.3 released


Hey Tim and Kirk, actually the message was pointed to both of you but only
in an effort to try to spin the list around into a better direction. I don't
want Ivan to become discouraged with the project and give it up. When
everyone started on the Net and when domains were registered really doesn't
matter. In my experience, the folks who have some of the best talent right
now are between 20-25 and don't really remember much about the net in 1985,
I think they were between the Atari 2600 and Nintendo phase about then if I
can remember the years correctly.

Anyhow, I'll make it a point to answer actual questions and not spout off
about useless stuff. I'd be glad to help get a freeside system up for you
guys, I've got to bring another one up for myself so I can look at 1.2.3
prior to putting into production.

Brian Walters                                        281-494-UNIX(8649)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kirk Moore [mailto:kmoore at aa.net]
> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 12:54 PM
> To: ivan-freeside at sisd.com
> Subject: RE: [freeside] 1.2.3 released
>
>
> Tim,
> It was directed at me.... I think... I started my first UUCP site in 85...
> and start one of the First privately owned ISP's in Washington state.... I
> am use to getting things to work..
>
> I am taking all the information that I can collecting to put something a
> little more concrete together..... :) That is for written documentation.
>
>
> --
> Kirk Moore
> Renton, Wa
>
>
> Black Holes are created when God divides by zero
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Jung [mailto:tjung at igateway.net]
> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 10:48 AM
> To: ivan-freeside at sisd.com
> Subject: Re: [freeside] 1.2.3 released
>
>
> I wasn't complaining about a lack of features. I was commenting
> on features
> I would like the program to have and in comparison to other Linux billing
> packages. I wanted to know what people thought of my list of
> features. If I
> am the only one who wants these then I know there probably is no point
> posting the code back to the public since no one would use it.
> But if there
> is something I want and lots of others want it, then maybe I
> should work on
> that first ahead of other stuff and post the code back for
> everyone to use.
>
> I work on 3 different Open Source projects, and I host a few Open Source
> projects and web sites only some of which I am involved in currently. So I
> do know how the Open Source community works, and I don't need a lecture on
> it. I see your domain was registered just last year in August of 1999. I
> started my second and current ISP in December of 1995. So I have
> been around
> the block a few times.
>
> Tim Jung
> System Admin
> Internet Gateway Inc.
> tjung at igateway.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Walters" <Brian at mylinuxisp.com>
> To: <ivan-freeside at sisd.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 10:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [freeside] 1.2.3 released
>
>
> > This list seems to have become littered with folks who don't fully
> > understand how these projects work. Ivan, let me say that I really like
> > Freeside and I'm looking forward to looking at the new changes just as
> soon
> > as I get some downtime after our move.
> >
> > Folks, don't blame the Application for not being able to build the
> database.
> > It's a simple configuration issue somewhere. If you see a feature that
> > Freeside doesn't have but some $10K program does, don't gripe about it.
> Jump
> > in and contribute. For those of you who don't have the
> programming talent,
> > just contribute money or something to a programmer that does. If I need
> > improvements to an open source project I'll regularly pay one of my
> contract
> > programmers to do the mods if I can't do them myself, and then I'll
> usually
> > submit them back to the project so I don't have to maintain
> them over new
> > releases.
> >
> > I can promise everyone, it took perseverance to get Freeside 1.2.2
> running,
> > it wasn't an rpm you just installed and started using, but there are no
> > secrets. You have the source code so it's pretty easy to figure
> out where
> > the program breaks when you are trying to install it. I will
> admit that a
> > little more info in the setup would be nice, but there aren't
> any secrets
> > missing.
> >
> > I don't want Ivan to get discouraged because the list members
> just seem to
> > gripe about everything. This program has great potential and has cost me
> > very little in expenses and lost billings. Just a few months
> ago we found
> > out that our wonderful legislators in Texas got some hair
> brained idea to
> > not tax the first $25 of a person's internet bill each month,
> and only tax
> > 80% of server co-lo fees. It took approximately 2 hours to
> adjust Freeside
> > to handle the tax properly and now we are able to bill our customers
> > correctly without having to issue any weird refunds like one commercial
> > vendor recommended.
> >
> > Thanks for a great program Ivan!
> >
> > Brian Walters 281-494-UNIX(8649)
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> > www.MyLinuxISP.com  A Friendly ISP for Linux Users
>
>




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