[freeside-devel] Some Ideas

[ivan]

The tarball by default should install things in better places in 
/usr/local, i.e. /usr/local/etc for config, /usr/local/bin for scripts, 
etc.

Distribution-specific installs (DEB, RPM, pkgsrc, ports, etc.) should 
(eventually) install things in the locations the distribution specifies.  
We're certainly not going to install things with a NetBSD-like layout 
anywhere except NetBSD.  :)

-- 
_ivan


On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 05:10:43PM -0600, David Burgess wrote:
> I've run FreeSide under NetBSD in the past (and plan to again after the
> first of January).  As such, I'm used to the files storage locations for
> the PKGSRC system that NetBSD uses.  While it's all style, the location
> structure that NetBSD uses makes excellent sense to me:
> 
> - Anything installed by a local administrator goes into /usr/local
> - Anything installed by a pkgsrc package goes into /usr/pkg
> 
> On my system, /usr/local/ and /usr/pkg/ are symlinked together.  As such,
> I always end up with most of the installation files in /usr/pkg.
> 
> - Configuration examples go into /usr/pkg/share/examples/{pkgname}
> - Configuration files go in either /usr/pkg/etc/ or /usr/pkg/etc/{pkgname}
> depending on the number of files.
> - Logs go into /var/log/{pkgname}/ or /var/log/pkgname.log
> - Perl modules are installed using CPAN, and the CPAN we use installs
> everything in /usr/pkg/lib/perl....
> - Executables go in /usr/pkg/bin for public executables, /usr/pkg/sbin for
> system management programs, and /usr/pkg/libexec for programs executed as
> subordinate executables.  An example is anything that gets installed as a
> cgi-bin web app.
> - If the package needs a biiiig directory full of stuff that doesn't fit
> into these categories goes into /usr/pkg/{pkgname}.  Ghostscript and cups
> are examples where one of these might get built.  Usually, however,
> everything of a configuration nature ends up in /usr/pkg/etc/{pkgname}
> instead.
> 
> So, if FreeSide was a NetBSD package again (I built a package for it a
> couple of years ago), it would install all of the required packages
> (Mason, etc.) using the pre-existing packages in pkgsrc, then install all
> of it's configuration stuff in /usr/pkg/etc/freeside.  The executables
> would go into /usr/pkg/sbin, and the Apache Interface stuff would all go
> into /usr/pkg/libexec/cgi-bin.
> 
> The only real variation on the theme is the placement of files in the /var
> directory.  Under NetBSD's normal theme, the /var directory is transitory,
> so databases and logs don't need their own /usr/local or /usr/pkg var
> directories.
> 
> By going with a standard set of installation directories, it's easy to
> predict where files are going to be, where to look for programs, and to
> manage a larger set of servers than using a long series of possible
> locations for everything.
> 
> Dave
> 
> <quote who="Jason Thomas">
> > On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 11:04:20PM -0500, Richard Siddall wrote:
> >> Jason Thomas wrote:
> >> > Debian is very strict about package layout, and I'm having a lot of
> >> > trouble massaging Freeside to fit.
> >>
> >> I gather the RPM version doesn't comply with all sorts of layout
> >> standards.
> >>
> >> Could you elaborate a bit?  It looks like Ivan's running sisd.com on
> >
> > Well actually I never looked at where your packages put stuff. But an
> > example of the kind of trouble is the logs in etc/freeside/, although
> > simple to change this is just one example and there seem to be lots.
> >
> > Usually when I package something you just do configure --prefix=/usr &&
> > make install DESTDIR=/home/jason/<application name>/debian/tmp/usr
> >
> > With freeside I've had to write all sorts of shell code to munge stuff.
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_ivan